jiayochris wrote:

infact gymnastics you aren't taught to delay, if you do a standing tuck and jump straight up rotate on the spot then land, they will tell you it's wrong.

No! Sorry, just to get the naming of disciplines correct, as everyone likes to be clear about what is what...tumblers get quite cross about being linked to other gymnastics disciplines, just as SOME freerunners do to traceurs!

Gymnastics is gymnastics (6 apparatus for men, 4 for women. You can specialise in any one or several of those). "Tumbling" is a separate discipline OF gymnastics. When gymnasts put a 'tumble' within their floor routine (on the square floor area), it is not "tumbling".

For example, tumbling, in gymnastics, is a sport that is judged separately, has its own squads / clubs / coaches and competitions. A true tumble consists of, usually, eight moves. Each tumbler must present 3 runs, differently (though you can inlcude some same moves), each with eight moves. Each run is properly known as a "pass". At the lower levels each tumble-run has 'set' moves. You work through the levels until you are able to select you own moves within a set of rules. Usually this is very high leve stuff (unless you are just training).

If a tumbler cannot link each move, with speed and without a pause it is not counted as a proper pass. Infact, any pause between (sometimes barely noticed to the untrained eye), can get you a zero for the whole pass. And yes, doubles, triples, twists or whatever, can come at the end, beginning or middle of a pass. So no, far from being wrong in tumbing to "get straight up and...", it is essential!

www.british-gymnastics...Itemid=147

As for 'power tumbling' being easier than tricking...I dont think so!! Link a minimum of 8 moves with the correct body form, without ANY pause or stagger, at speed and then land it, perfectly etc etc.

So, this is tumbling (full name power tumbling)
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fbsWHsiFQ84

This is not
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcL3l4Vp0k

and definately not this
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJT2IrkeLI

So, when you hear someone say that they can do tumbling - ask them if they are a tumbler!!
(I was, and thats how I know)

Respect

Ok, well i replace gymnastics with power tumbling...

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jiayochris wrote:

if you do a standing tuck and jump straight up rotate on the spot then land, they will tell you it's wrong.

Nope - sorry, you ARE taught to do exactly that and a whole lot more. However, in tumbing there are NO standing tucks - it is all linked moves.

If you watched those videos - the first one in particular, and still think what you do is harder, I'm amazed. But, Im not going to get into that debate. lol

Anyway, this, as you say, is a tricking discussion thread - just thought you'd like the facts about tumbling - so now, you too can correct people if you should ever feel the need

well gymnasts often look straight back on a backtuck. I have tricked with Damien walters a few times and i admit he has a very nice standing tuck... But he can trick aswell as tumble. And i still think tumbling is easier that tricking. I landed a double back onto level mats before i landed something like a jacknife.

Landed & 'good at' are two different things
As for doing correctly....lol

Im saying no more

Ahaha it is ridiculous to say one is harder than the other when the fact is you can never beat either of them... you can always turn it up a notch... so they are both just as hard as you make them.

Tricking is cooler x 10000000000 though.